When will Intactivists learn that bullying will never work?

Intactivists:  While your cause is worthy, your attack-style delivery quickly kills it.  Dead.

Unless you are willing to expand your mind, you will never change the minds of others.       

A Skeptic's Letter to Intactivists

Intactivist: Heal Thyself

Further evidence of what these very people like to call circumfetish behavior?

I should say so.

Disgusting. 

Eureka, but wait....

It hit me today that not only do I not give a fuck about circumcision, but if I had to choose, had I ever had a baby, I probably would not get him circumcised.

All I've ever known was circumcision.  However, after doing my own reading and research, I have to say I probably would not do it.  That is also under the circumstances that my husband agreed.  I know that, for a man, having a son is one of the greatest joys in the world.  So I would have to have his agreement.  And then we might have a fight, or we might not.  I don't know.

And I'll never know, because I don't have a uterus.

With that being said, if the Intactivists would calm down I think they could do some good in this world.  But they just can't do it, and I honestly do not understand why.

From the moment I clicked on the ERIC Facebook page I felt belittled, put on the spot, and felt like I was being yelled at.  So I went on the defensive.

The blog the next day was just a common everyday thing that I do.

Then came the bombardment.  They just happened to pick the wrong one to bombard because I will fight all day long with a paper bag if I have to.  They said things to me they would NEVER have gotten out of their mouths all the way in person because I would have slapped the shit out of them.

Anyway, it is a shame that there is a good message but nobody can hear them from all the different ways they go about putting people on the defensive.  I was taught a great deal about giving information to people who don't want to listen or accept that information when I was in nursing school.  If these people really want to get their point across they have GOT to stop going about it the way they are.

The following words should be DELETED from their vocabulary:

1.  Mutilated (or any variation thereof)
2.  Ruined
3.  Perfect
4.  Ignorant
5.  Fetish (or any variation thereof)
6.  Any condescending words like sweetie, honey, sweet cheeks, etc.
7.  Any accusatory words that put mothers or fathers on the defense to begin with.

With all of that being said, you can't change everyone's minds.  Some people will listen to you and some won't.  I've tried to teach drug addicts how to get off of drugs only for them to overdose as soon as they leave the hospital, I've tried to teach teenage mothers how to properly use birth control only for them to come back pregnant, I've tried to teach diabetics how to take care of themselves so that they don't lose parts of their body only for them to come in months later and have their leg amputated because they chose not to listen.  I've told patients, after routine colonoscopies, to make sure that they come back next year and get a repeat colonoscopy because we found a polyp.  Did they come back in a year?  No.  They came back in five and found out that that polyp had grown into a cancerous mass.

People do not always listen.  I'm sorry but that is just the way it is.

I think the ones of you who are rational, calm individuals should break away from the people who seem to have lost their fucking minds and call yourselves something else because, I gotta tell you, the word "Intactivist" has a very bad connotation from what I have experienced, from what my friends have experienced, and from what I have researched on the internet.

Good luck.

~ Jen

They don't know when to stop.

Go check out this page.

Educational Comments?

I was not familiar with "The Weakly News with Iliza Shlesinger" until I ran across a link to one of her episodes on YouTube on an Intactivist Facebook page.

While I do not agree with the comments she made and I do agree that she needs education about circumcised penises vs. uncircumcised penises, I, AGAIN do not agree with the "educational comments" that the majority of these Intactivists left on her video. To see those comments, just read them under the video.

And make no mistake about it, when I say that she needs education on that subject I mean that she needs it if she agrees to listen to it. I mean that she should be approached calmly and rationally by one person who asks if it is okay to speak to her about it. If she agrees, then they should lay out the facts based on peer-reviewed science and not based on material that was written by Intactivists. If she says that she doesn't want the education, then they should accept that fact and walk away.

Anyway, how do I know these people went to her link from an Intactivist site? Case in point: CynDaVez is very close to the name of a woman who posts on that site regularly.

I do believe that this web show's outrageous comments and unconventional manner of presentation has a lot to do with her talking about the matter the way she did. Also, keep in mind that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Are her statements inflammatory? Yes. Does she do it on purpose? Most likely.

Did I find her funny? Yes. I did. I found the wolf opening funny and I found the wolf dance funny. Do I know why? Not really. I tend to find flat-out random stupidity quite funny most of the time. I laugh at stuff that makes no sense and seems to have no rationale whatsoever. Kind of like how I found the movies "Napoleon Dynamite" and "Pootie Tang" hilarious. Both totally random and pretty stupid but funny as shit.

Anyway. Yeah, I thought she went overboard but I think she was caught in the moment and trying to prove her point. Or trying to go for the shock value, or whatever.

But whatever. Here we go again with the "educational comments". I did not know that "educational comments" include words like "fuck you", "stupid bitch", "fuck off and die slowly", "disgustingly stupid", and "idiot". Guess I missed that part of my education in my 10 years of post-high school education. But what do I know? I'm just a stupid nurse.

~ Jen

Admission

Here is admission of stalking and terrorizing by these groups.  Instead of writing a heartfelt letter or email, they chose to go so far as to text her when she has no idea who they are in the first place.

"Let's just say I had the last word" is what Michael Tucker had to say in response to her text back that she would call the police.

I guess actually sitting down and composing an email or a letter as to why this picture was found offensive made just a little too much sense.

To see the picture with the admission of harassing behavior, click on the link.

We can't make this stuff up.  It's easily accessible on the internet.

How would you have handled this situation?

Stalk and Terrorize

BOMBARDED A YOUNG FATHER?  UNTIL YOU MADE HIM SAD? 

I guess you people feel that terrorizing individuals into doing your will is how to get things done.